well im going to be unpopular here.
i am still in jw orginization, in fact i just went to a meeting tonight and even had the privlege of caring microphones.
i'm being set up as an example in the congregation...and guess what else...i dont believe anything!!
Just a scripture and a quote to think about:
Courage is not the absence of fear;
It is going ahead despite the fear.
BE STRONG AND COURAGEOUS;DO NOT BE AFRAID NOR DISMAYED BEFORE THE KING OF ASSYRIA,NOR BEFORE ALL THE MULTITUDE THAT IS WITH HIM;FOR THERE ARE MORE WITH US THAN WITH HIM.
the lovely folks over at the observer.
have posted the wtbts charitable planning brochure on their site.. wonder where they got it.. *eg* .anyway.
please have a look..... and while looking just repeat ......."the system is going to end soon".
I think it is a shame that they jump through so many hoops to try and get donations etc. but are very guilty of not following Christ eample of taking care of widows and orphans, (unless of course they are JW'S in good standing in the congregation)
They do nothing to help feed and house the homeless. They do nothing to help battered women. (unless of course they are JW'S in good standing)
What ever happened to unconditional love of neighbor.
It is sad to me that the WBTC has so many billions of dollers and will not help with any noteworthy causes.
this will probally sound like an elementary question but it is one that the wittnesses have never giving me a solid answer on.. are you born a sheep or a goat?.
are some born more righteously inclined?.
if the answer is yes, then why?
This will probally sound like an elementary question but it is one that the Wittnesses have never giving me a solid answer on.
Are you born a sheep or a goat?
Are some born more righteously inclined?
If the answer is yes, then why?
the end of the world came and st.peter was talking to god about all the different groups up there and where they were.. st.peter said over here we have the babtist and over there we have the church of christ and there are the hindus and back over there,shooooo be real quite are the jw's they think they are the only ones up here.
The end of the world came and St.Peter was talking to God about all the different groups up there and where they were.
St.Peter said over here we have the Babtist and over there we have the Church of Christ and there are the Hindus and back over there,shooooo be real quite are the JW'S they think they are the only ones up here.
this nunn dies and goes to heaven, when she gets there st.peter tells her that they are all full and that she could pick whoever she wanted to be for a week back on earth.. she tells st.peter she would like to be sandy pippe line.
st. peter does not know who she is talking about so he says he will have to look into the birth records to get more information.. so he looks and he can find no record of a sandy pippe line ever being born and he informs the nunn of this.. the nunn says oh yes let me show you, so she reaches in her pocket and pulls out a newspaper clipping and hands it to him.. st.peter reads it and his face turns all red and he tells the nunn he says no sister this reads the sandy pipe line laid by 100 men in one week.
This nunn dies and goes to heaven, when she gets there St.Peter tells her that they are all full and that she could pick whoever she wanted to be for a week back on earth.
She tells St.Peter she would like to be Sandy Pippe Line. St. Peter does not know who she is talking about so he says he will have to look into the birth records to get more information.
So he looks and he can find no record of a Sandy Pippe Line ever being born and he informs the nunn of this.
The nunn says oh yes let me show you, so she reaches in her pocket and pulls out a newspaper clipping and hands it to him.
St.Peter reads it and his face turns all red and he tells the nunn he says no sister this reads THE SANDY PIPE LINE LAID BY 100 MEN IN ONE WEEK.
i was just wondering about most of you guys.
since you aren't jws anymore, what are your beliefs now?
have you rejected the bible as a whole?
That was a good thought about Adam not being offered immortality and there being no mention of it.
As far as blaiming God for things that are going on in this world, well I must tell you I really can't say I blame God, I do think that God has done some things that were not very productive. An example is the flood what did that accomplish long term? Nothing really wickedness still prevails does it not?
Destroying Sodom and Gomorah another example of a short term move.
What has he done in our day to even prove to us he exsist?
Why did miracles cease to continue?
What happened to divine intrevention?
Last question what are your thoughts on deism?
i was just wondering about most of you guys.
since you aren't jws anymore, what are your beliefs now?
have you rejected the bible as a whole?
I have come to believe that relegion is exactly what the Society said it was years ago (A TRAP AND A SNARE)
I believe that we should live our lives by showing love to all without any exceptions.
I have a hard time believing that a God of love would just sit back and watch the many horrible things that go on in this world just so it would be known who was the right ruler.
At this point I do not even know what sort if any God put us here.
I believe it is written that God rested on the seventh day, I think he should have used that day to think about kindness,empathy and how he could use it on his creation.
hullo everybody i'm new here, even though i've been lurking now for several months.. i have to say how afraid i am to post, afraid and ashamed but i feel if i dont tell my story, i honestly dont know what may happen to me or my children if they lose me, right now i feel like i've got nowhere left to turn and have my doubts about this place as well.. i know my story will shock you but i cant keep it in any longer.
i am recently disfellowshipped for immorality, the subject of a kingdom hall witch -hunt and subsequent congregational humiliation, .
during the process of the judicial committee meetings and proceedings no consideration was given to my real human circumstances nor to the spirit of survival nor human nature nor that of a mother seeking to protect her children from lack of basic fundamentals such as food, shelter and clothing.
I posted for the first time yesterday under the topic meet new friends if you read my story you will find that I was forced out of my home at the age of sixteen because I did not want to be in the non-truth.
I lived as a homeless person for four plus years, I did some things back then that I thought I would never get over or out of my mind.
In was wrong because I am 40 now, I am married with four children and I also own my own business.
What I had to do is to not be so hard on myself and realize I did all that I knew to do at that time to make it.
The most important thing is to use whatever you are doing as a stepping stone to put yourself where you would really like to be.
I have never understood the concept that there is different levels of wrong when it comes to morality.
An example is this, what is the difference between watching a movie where a man and woman are acting like they are having sex, say a R rated movie then watching a porno film where they are having sex.
My point is that wrong is wrong and right is right there is no levels of either. So do not be so hard on youself do what you feel you need to do then move ahead.
(WE ARE ALL GOING TO DO BETTER TOMOROW ! AND WE WOULD TO, IF WE ONLY STARTED TODAY)
what percentage of decrease would there be in the societys's numbers if they were to back out all the minor kid's that are included in the numbers?
What Percentage Of Decrease Would There Be In The Societys's Numbers If They Were To Back Out All The Minor Kid's That Are Included In The Numbers?
my name is jim,i have been in a slow but now i feel complete process of removing myself from the chains of mind control.. before i left i was a ministerial servant as well as a regular aux pioneer, i also had book study in my home along with sat.
morning field service.
unfournatley i was raised in the non-truth since i was 8 years old, i refused to get babtized as a youth because even then i felt like things were not like they really should be from a relegion that claims to have love among themselves as well as love for neighbor.. at the age of 16 i started to rebell against the non-truth with the result being that i did not want to be a witness i could not live in my loving witness parent household.
My name is Jim,I have been in a slow but now I feel complete process of removing myself from the chains of mind control.
Before I left I was a ministerial servant as well as a regular aux pioneer, I also had book study in my home along with Sat. morning field service. Unfournatley I was raised in the non-truth since I was 8 years old, I refused to get babtized as a youth because even then I felt like things were not like they really should be from a relegion that claims to have love among themselves as well as love for neighbor.
At the age of 16 I started to rebell against the non-truth with the result being that I did not want to be a witness I could not live in my loving witness parent household. So I left, which at sixteen years of age with no other friends hardly but the false-wittnesses this was a move that put me on the streets. I lived on the streets as a homeless person for over four years, that probally sounds horrible to anyone reading this and I have to admit I had some very bad days,and some very long cold nights but I also had some good experiences.
I jumped freight trains all over the country, drank thunderbird wine with hobo's and I learned a whole lot about people, I found out that there was a lot o good people out there and they weren't witnesses.(is that new light)
Four years of street life was very hard on me, I devaloped a addiction to all sorts of things, sex,drugs,booze, and most of all freedom of thought,freedom of no relegion,freedom from guilt.
Then I realized that If I was ever going to get my act together I would need help. Help that included legal,mental,financial. So you can guess that meant me going back home which I did, and of course that meant getting back in to the non-truth, which I did.
I will never forget going back to my first meeting, the brothers pulled me back into the cold room and this is what they told me. They asked me what was I doing back? Who was I trying to fool by cutting my hair? They said you don't belong here and that I need to quit waisting there time and my parents money and get back to the streets where i belong. (So much for the prodigile son)
To shorten this up, I came back in the truth, married the best looking pioneer sister in the hall, which upset many brothers. (thats another whole story) Was appointd as MS as well as regular pioneer.
Then I did the unthinkable I went in to business with a wordly person. That was the start of the end, first I was counseled against it, then I was visited by the elders and was told that they felt I needed to be releived of some of my responsibility, of course they did not mention relieving me of the book study and field service in my home. So I gladly relieved my self of that burden.
I took my family and my self on a vacation to the Smokey Mountains,
when I got back I had a beard (well you know the rest of the story)
For the first year I made probally a meeting a month plus the memorial.
Then the second year I made a meeting every other month plus the memorial. Unlike the previous year I decided not to shave my beard any longer for any meeting and this was almost to much for my wife to
deal with so I reduced myself to going only to the memorial and to special events, like if one of my kid's has a talk etc.
This year however I did not even make the memorial (it actually felt good)
My daughter is getting babtized in July at the District, she is so excited about it however I feel so sad inside for her, I will very soon sit down with my family and show them why I am no longer involved with there faith and let them decide for themselves.
Thank's for taking the time to read my post and always remember this (YOU HAVE TO STAND FOR SOMETHING ARE YOU WILL FALL FOR ANYTHING)
I DID NOT HAVE TIME TO PROOFREAD THIS,PLEASE EXCUSE ANY ERRORS.
